So here is where we are with taping:

Taping is officially limited to one or two songs. We don't want people bringing in super HD recorders trying to capture the whole show. This mitigates the likelihood that anyone will ever want a professionally done one issued by the band. If you would like to record, please notify me or the band prior to the show of your intentions and we'll generally always approve. We want to avoid bootlegging of complete shows in the audiovisual medium. I hope this policy sits well with everyone. If you feel otherwise, please post why in this thread...

Best,
Tom

Sounds reasonable to me.

I'm curious as to whose decision this was. As with the uproar about 'The Rock' (I've had nothing but favorable experiences there, and prefer it to 'the Myth')

or if the rock was wrong in asking for no recordings (or if there was a miscommunication)

sounds like a good idea and if, though mine are not HIgh Def, you'd like any taken down let me know...I will say though that the one I got for Wars has now got either more plays or just as many plays as my highest played one on YouTube and it has been there less than half the time. But like I said, I will gladly take any down

Sounds good to me. That's all my camera can hold anyways haha.

Yeah, I feel like crap now.....

Thanks for the clarification PM Tom... Don't feel like crap now!... hahaha

Very reasonable, if in fact the band does release an official live dvd (or cd), otherwise it seems pointless.

Im going to be one nervous person tonight.. I dont know what the set list will be, and I know I want to get at least the max of 2 songs on video.


and with my luck, ill hit record thinking the song I want on video is next, and it isnt. And ill waste a "credit" ;P






and of course im being half-assed serious with this, lol. the obvious answer would be to hit the "oh fuck" button on the camera,, and just stop recording that one ;P

Totally reasonable. On a similar note, where do you stand on recording just the audio of a full show, like what was done with a show last year?

yeah i'm down with two recordings.... too bad we aren't allowed to record at THE KNITTING FACTORY here in boise.... that and i don't have a recorder

Yeah, seems reasonable to me. I usually just snap photos anyway though. Any new guidelines for this or is it still free for all?

ill admit, i did do 3 songs tonight, but one of them got totally ruined by this jackass behind me yelling at Rose pretty much through the whole video.


so trust me, even though i still like it, its pretty much a garbage recording

so what about audio only recording? would you like that limited too?

i personally would think that if they want limited video, then they would probably want limited audio also

Well, I think that people would buy a DVD if it came out regardless of whether they were allowed to film, so I would encourage a policy of allowing cameras and filming.

Provided the filming only occurs from within the crowd, I would think that anything official would be a better quality, having close-ups of the band and all, and of course, decent sound.

But as I have said before on other issues, it should always be up to the band. They are the ones who made the music, they are the ones who have to go out there and try to sell it, they are the ones that have to perform in front of crowds and put on a hell of a show every night.

If the band want to restrict filming, that is fine, but I think if you put too many restrictions on what people can do, they will simply move onto something with less restrictions.

I don't think illegal downloading is killing music. I think record labels that really haven't a clue are killing music.

It is important, therefore, to not think like a record label. Think outside the box and try new ways to market things.

Just my 1.209 pennies. Y'all may disagree.

The times they are a-changin'

I must admit, I have recorded 2 full shows in the past. Though I dont post them online, they are for me only. the quality isnt the greatest, but it is decent. but i will respect the bands new wishes. hopefully we will get a professional dvd sometime soon.

So I take it from this post that The Rock -did- have word from the band to not allow recordings? Because this seems like a compromise to me...

No, I spoke to the band after your incident and we all agreed that there was no defined policy, so we came up with one. Venue to venue there are always overzealous security folks traversing the room looking to "flex their muscles". That seems to be the case in Maplewood. At any rate, we now have a published policy that we hope everyone is comfortable with.

There are some preliminary plans to do a "live" acoustic show this fall. We are discussing filming it and offering tickets to 60 people for the "proposed" 2 night stand at the NJ shore where we recorded "Goodbye to the Machine". Think the HURT song catalog done entirely acoustic and performed and recorded live...

Would you guys be interested in something like this?

Tom

Holy crap that would be awesome. Make it happen!

if only i didnt live so far away, lol



but of course im not going to go against that idea and make people miserable that DO live close

Um
hello
how far is jersey and what truck stop do i have to work to get a ride there
i'll stick hubby to work too

I sooooooooo want a full acoustic show
short of kidnapping the whole band, i want to be there.

If this is put on in August, I can be there. arrr

It sounds great. I think the guys should have it recorded and sold/distributed on their website.
I'd be willing to pay any amount for a live acoustic performance

Yes. There is nothing else to say.

Fuck yes, sign me up.

September sounds like a good month. Plenty of time to raise money.

sounds awesome Tom! Now how do I go about getting one of these tickets? Ill figure the travel arrangements out later.

Holy shit, man! That would be fuckin' AMAZING! Shorefire studio has an outstanding sound and HURT acoustic is nothing short of exemplary! I'm there. It must be recorded and released. Only could sharply augment HURT's already beyond astounding catalogue and reputation.

Seriously. I STRONGLY support Junk's later post as well.

Last night i did ask if i could record and was told by Rek yes for two songs however i had a security guard tell me that he would throw me out if i didnt stop recording.....so of course i stopped because i wasnt going to miss the show because of it(why do people have to be sooo rude anyway?)! I do have the Chicago & Madison shows on you tube and will gladly take them down if thats what is requested! I really made them for my own enjoyment and didnt want to share them with the world anyway but i figured that was pretty selfish....so i broke down and put them up.

As long as you release it in some way so everyone can hear it lmao.

I would make the trip for that. It would be like Seether's One Cold Night CD/DVD if it was to be recorded

Don't care when or where. If given the chance, I would be there!

If this does happen i pray it doesn't happen at least until November . that would give me time to save enough for that journey. Of course, that's assuming I can get a ticket lol.

Maybe do something willy wonka style and have golden tickets.

yeah. Though, the request for accoustics from us has always been outstanding. Hell, I'd pay for a DVD of Studio quality accoustics.

that would be awesome.

and maybe somepoint down the road, do something like that, except with the regular stuff, not acoustic, with some on the road documentary type stuff, kinda like as i lay dying's dvd set that just came out.

i think i can speak for most everyone here when i say that if there were such dvd's, we would all buy them, and probably multiple copies lol.

I am begging you to do this, and make an album(s) of the recordings! Please!

this would be the best thing to happen next to a live show....i never cease to be amazed...

A live acoustic set would be AMAZING...hopefully, this "proposal" is put into action

Wow Tom! That would be amazing! I live in Ohio but if my wife and I were allowed to attend we would be there for sure and nothing could stop us. My wife and I would pay almost any amount of money for said tickets. Even if we weren't able to attend due to a shortage of tickets, we would still love to have a CD/DVD of this and would buy several copies for our friends and family. Make it happen Tom and let me know.

You may not know this yet but would the shows attendance be invitation only or ticket based "first-come first-served"?

putting in my bid early for one of those 60 tickets???








and while I think the video limit of one or two songs is a little harsh (3 or 4 would be better), I understand and will abide by the new policy.

That would be a definite interest there to be a part of that I see many thinking fall vacations to Jersey right about now lol

I think the ole ticker stopped beating for a second . . . lol. Interested isn't a strong enough word for that type of question. That would be absolutely insane and completely awesome all at the same time.

Are we talking the entire GTTM album acoustic or literally everything ? I know you said catalog so would that also mean the infamous self-titled album and the Vol. 1 & 2 albums. The reason I ask is because everyone wants to hear the self-titled album and Vol. 1 & 2 are through Capital. I seriously hope this truly happens. I would so buy out every copy at all the local stores.

On another note, the song "The Consumation" would sound great with an orchestra backing the band or J. on violin.

The acoustic show sounds amazing! I was talking to one of my best friends that use to live in Wildwood.....she said it would be nice to fly back home with my plane tickets and see Hurt at the same time....but i think i have to use the tickets before you plan on doing the show!

She was telling me about a time they had to evacuate the island because of a hurricane coming and that of the 3 bridges into Wildwood only one of them was open for evacuation.......sounded pretty scary to me!

well......that sucks(referring to the new taping policy).....i get it....and i understand it......and tho i agree with it and prolly wasnt gonna record anymore then that any way....... not having the option still sucks........ but thats how the cookie crumbles...........at least we can still take pics......and have a great friggen time at the shows.........oh and the acoustic video sounds awesome i cant wait to check it out

That is exactly what I am thinking. I would kill for 2 tickets to that show.

I spend a weekend away from civilization and miss the announcement of a planned acoustic set to be recorded for a DVD? That's freaking amazing, and as everyone else has said, I'd love a ticket for the show. I'd definitely make my way to NJ for that.

Great idea! I hope it can happen.

Yep I am kinda am confused. So how will this be policed, will someone be there to count to make sure everyone is not recording more than two songs or will no one be allowed? I personally don't care about other recordings that people make, I would rather see the band live anyways. I would think the more videos out there will get the word out about the band. And I think an acoustic live version would be very awesome.

Hell, I bought the vinyl record after the show yesterday because someone posted pictures of what was inside, even though I don't own a player that I could possibly play the record on. Since there was no posters to get on the merch store, and the vinyl record had the "pill" picture, which I thought was cool.

Yes, please...pretty please...pretty please, with a cherry on top